Jazoon 2011, Day 1 – Future Directions for Java SE and Java EE – Simon Ritter

26. June, 2011

Future Directions for Java SE and Java EE – Simon Ritter

Simon gave an insight on some of the problems which the Java Community Process JCP had before Oracle bought Sun and then, he showed the plans for the next two major Java SE and EE release. Java SE 7 is due Juli 28th, 2011 (if nothing bad happens), Java 8 should ship end of 2012.

There wasn’t anything really new except the nice way in which Simon presented things.

Of course, the presentation ended with the usual (at least for US companies) disclaimer that all this is subject to change at any time.

On one hand, I think it’s good that Oracle simply break ahead and let’s the past rest. The blunders with OpenOffice, Java Harmony and Hudson created a lot of bad blood with the community. Their best chance is probably to finally present something substantial instead of always only upsetting everyone with their decisions.

What I found odd is the priorities: First, they want to broaden the developer base. Java is #1 right now (or so they say). Hm. They want to increase adoption. And they want to make developers more productive. In that order.

If I was in charge there, I’d put “make developers more productive” top of the list and kill everything else. Why? If Java is more productive than anything else, that will automatically increase adoption.

Oracle’s priority lists reads more along the lines “we know we can’t make developers more productive, especially not after making everyone hate us, so we’ll just blind them with advertising.” One of the major problems with Java is that they can’t change the language. It’s not that they really can’t but it could possible break so much existing code or drive the complexity up one final, deadly notch, so really, they can’t.

Which means Java (the language) is a dead-end. But they can’t admit that, either, because everyone things Java == language. Wikipedia has a list of languages that the Java VM can run. Developers are more productive with many of them. Groovy usually needs 3-4 times less code to solve some problem than Java code and it get’s better with every release. The same is true for Scalaor Ruby.

So maybe Oracle is right: A lot of advertisement to drive people away from the Java language and into the open arms of the many new, much more productive languages is actually a better solution than breaking the Java language itself. Today, performance (or the irrational fear for performance problems) plus the “teach old dog new trick” problem prevent wider adoption. The former is being solved with Da Vinci (part of Java 7) so this leaves us just with the latter – which means advertising is the way to go.

Oh, and they will merge the best features of JRockit into HotSpot (the Sun VM).


Back from JaZOOn, Second Day

26. June, 2007

Well, modern medicine worked it’s usual miracle and my brain was much less clogged today. I went to the keynotes but left a bit disappointed. The history of the web and REST was nice to see but my interest in the past is usually reduced to use it as a source for cynical comments about mistakes that bite us today, and there wasn’t much in it for me in that regard. The second talk just contained nothing that I didn’t knew already. Well, you can’t always win.

Next, I went to see a software demonstration (Automated (J)Unit Testing) but I had seen that one before so I left early and attended Hibernate Search: Unstructured Search for Hibernate instead. The group around Emmanuel Bernard managed to extend the query API of Hibernate for Apache Lucene. Nice work, easy to use, looks promising. If you have a web application which allows users to search for something, this is definitively something you should try. Like Google, you can offer a single text field and the search results will be ranked in an intelligent way. Cool.

After lunch, I enjoyed the The Zen of jMaki. They have started to collect all and every JavaScript Web widget set out there, wrapped all of them in the same way, so they get much more simple to use. I don’t like JSP’s and tag-libraries but they have done a nice job and the demos looked real enough to believe that this can actually help.

In the same room, I watched David Nuescheler Blitzing the Content Repository: AJAX meets JCR. He developed a little JavaScript library called “R-JAX” which allows to create something that resembles CRUD with a JCR and a few lines of HTML. Since you can access the Content Repository via HTTP, all you need to do is to copy all files (JavaScript, HTML, CSS, etc.) into the repository and then make sure you use the right (relative) URLs and you were ready to go. This JCR stuff also looks very interesting. I hope I’ll find the time to have a closer look at Apache Jackrabbit one of these days.

Of course, when you do a lot of AJAX, you need to test it somehow. Ed Burns held the talk Java Platform Automated Testing of Ajax Applications where he compared four different tools to do this (some commercial, some OSS) and Webclient a.k.a. MCP (Mozilla Control Program) which allows to embed a web browser in a Java program and control it from a unit test (so you can load a web page, examine it, check AJAX requests, etc). GWT gets you only so far with their own testing framework (especially since it’s insane to setup and some things (like UI elements) can’t be tested at all. MCP solves all that but you have to deploy the webapp somewhere. Choose your poison.

Right now, MCP can only run Firefox (but they are working on getting at least IE on Windows). It would be nice to see the same integration on Linux using the IEs4Linux project. You did know that you can run IE on Linux, didn’t you? Not that anyone ever wanted (except for those web pages which stubbornly refuse to display correctly in Firefox … and for those, who insist on Flash 123.5 which will come for Linux in 2150 … but who needs them anyway).

The next talk was obvious: Java and Scripting: One VM, Many Languages. Rags Srinivas (with hat!) showed us around the Java Scripting API. Pretty low level presentation with little new information. I had hoped for more meat here. The only interesting he mentioned was that Sun doesn’t really care about dynamic languages per se. They care that as many of them as possibly run on the Java VM but not the languages themselves. That probably explains the strange maneuvering in the last months: Hiring key Ruby developers, working on standardizing Groovy (JSR 241 and then suddenly JavaFX is the Next Great Thing(TM). Actually, JavaFX just seems to be another building block in a growing forest (some would say swamp) of dynamic languages flourishing around Java.

Smells a lot like .NET (one runtime, any language you like) and probably makes sense. There are so many common problems (Singletons, DB access, HTML generation, mixing HTML and Java) which you can’t really do well in Java but perfectly well in other languages which don’t (have to) drag the Java legacy along. Java is ten years old, now, and it begins to show. GC was a fantastic new feature when Java came out, but today, every contender for the language of the next decade can do that. In Java, Beans, lists, maps and other, important types and concepts are second class citizens. To create a simple list and sort it, you have to write ten lines of code. In Groovy, you write:

def list = ['a', 1, 'b']

1 is of course turned into an Integer. Try that in Java 5 and the vital information, the data in the list, is drowned in syntax to club the compiler into silence:

import java.util.Arrays;
import java.util.List;

public class Foo {
    List list = Arrays.asList (new Object[] { 'a', 1, 'b' });
}

The sad part is that I had to start Eclipse to make sure that the syntax is correct. The Java code is six times as long and only 1/6th of that is actual information. The rest is only there to make the compiler happy. 😦

Back to Jazoon. I would have loved to attent the BOF’s, especially the ones registered by Neil M. Gafter about Java Closures and something else (I forgot) but I still wasn’t too well and didn’t want to risk to have to miss the last two days.

All in all, I enjoyed this day. My thanks go to the JUGS guys for organizing it.